Tsukimori Ryosuke
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Post by Tsukimori Ryosuke on Oct 4, 2010 5:43:04 GMT -5
I expressed this idea to some of you guys earlier, and I'd been just throwing it out there, but I seriously think it could be a good one! There seems to be a kind of monopoly on the Tumbling fics out there, if it doesn't sound too horrible to say, and I just thought it would be kind of cool if all of us together considered sharing our awesome stories on here with more Tumbling fans! I'm sure you'll all agree that we've all really gotten into our characters, and what I particularly love about writing with all of you is how well you portray the canon (and even the original) characters. There is nothing really overdramatic or unrealistic about them. It's kind of like we all just....become our characters when we write, and that's what it's all about, isn't it? That being said, I just feel like people out there who enjoy reading Tumbling Fanfics might like to read some of the things we've all had going! So I was thinking we could do the following: 1.) Set up an account on the Fan Fiction sites/Livejournal/Dreamwidth/wherever called something like, "Tumbling RPG Fic Club" 2.) It would be an account we all share, so we would all know the username and password and could contact each other if any of us made changes to the password or something! 3) We could literally post our roleplay responses as stories. They could just be random instances in time, really. And each chapter to each story could be each of our responses. For instance: Say I posted the opening post I wrote in the Forest thread. That would be Chapter 1. Then whoever wrote the second response in that thread could sign onto the account and post their response as Chapter 2. 4.) We could all get credit for the sections we wrote! (So those of you who have accounts on Fanfiction.net, for instance, could link to your FFNet account!) 5.) I had another idea for this, but I forgot it. XDDD Well, if I remember I'll add it in! Of course, this is all just an idea and I wouldn't get to work on it at all if even one person out there doesn't like it! I can certainly understand and respect someone not wanting their work being used in that way, and I know of plenty of times when good work has been stolen and reposted by someone else claiming it as their own! But what do you guys think?  |
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Post by Kiyama Ryuichiro on Oct 4, 2010 6:55:47 GMT -5
First of all, I'm glad that I was mistaken about what you'd meant! I was part of an RP way back in the day and someone suggested "novelizing" the story, and that was just a big mess.
Anyhow, I guess I have two main concerns:
1) Not to say that I don't trust you guys, because it's not that I don't... it's just that things naturally get more complicated when you more people involved. For instance, it can be a matter of communication... like what are we going to post when, stuff like that. Particularly in the case we post multiple things from one thread, I think... Hopefully if we do this as a group, everyone will be active and prompt with whatever we plan to do.
2) Most of our stuff is plausible in canon, if not without a bit of explanation. I guess it'll just be tough to explain certain things, for instance, threads involving original characters. And... well, at least, for some of my own posts, I could imagine that they would have to be edited somewhat (exposition, clarification, etc.) so they would make a stand-alone ficlet. This is particularly the case if we decide to post subsequent posts, as a good part of a lot of our replies end up (essentially) repeating things that have happened before, and that mightn't "flow" well for readers.
Uh... I feel like I had something else to say, too, but I guess I'm a bit tired right now. XD
But so yeah I'm cool with it so long as everyone else is cool with it so lets be all cool and stuff I need to go to sleep.
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Post by Kaneko Atsushi on Oct 7, 2010 10:43:02 GMT -5
This idea is not that bad. However I have the feeling it's not gonna turn out the way you imagined it. For example, not everybody likes to write alot, even if it's for RP games (I saw many Ryosuke, Misuzawa, Hino posts, but not that many made by others). Then it depends on the 'plot': and writing a story with... well at least 9 ppl (the whole team... and Yuuta is still missing!) + OC and such... it might really get complicated... I think at least for now things can stay here, considering non-registered users can read what we write. We can always create a community (it would be a better choice than a journal) later on. But this is just my opinion! If the majority of ppl agree with your idea, then it'll be okay for me as well  |
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Post by Tsukimori Ryosuke on Oct 7, 2010 14:25:06 GMT -5
No, I understand this. In this case, I think if we wanted to do this idea, such a problem could be avoided by if we all made separate accounts. I don't know if it's possible to start some kind of group, but even if not, Alex--as admin of this site--could be the owner of the account for the "Official RPG Fic Club" (or whatever it might be called), and could link to our names for each post written! But I do think, even if we did that idea, we should all make accounts just so there is someone to link to for credit! ^^
I think posting what and when isn't so complicated if everyone is on the same page! Thankfully we have a comfy and small community, so posting together shouldn't be a huge issue!
Why is it difficult to involve original characters? If we find a way to introduce them, doesn't it seem like it would be easy? I feel like people include original characters in fanfiction on FF.Net/Fiction Press all the time! I know I've read lots of Kingdom Hearts fics in the past where original characters were added in. I always thought that made things kind of original and fresh! And it doesn't have to be a long introduction, it could be right at the beginning of the chapter! ^^
It might not flow well, but I get the impression that if we explain how and why it is set up the way it is, people will understand. And if we post it as changing POV, it might be necessary to have some reptition. But if each reply is a "new chapter" and each thread is a "new story", then I feel like at least some people would enjoy it. If it's called the RPG Fic Club or something like that (or even if we explain who we are), shouldn't people know that it's based on an RPG? Probably not everyone's cup of tea, but I feel like we have some authentic stories (and well written too) that we could share with fans! ^0^/
It's not writing new posts, it's just creating fanfiction from the posts we already have! ^^ It wouldn't even have to be updated often.....It's not a matter of having to write new stuff for this account unless we wanted to. Really, each new chapter would be each new post in a certain thread, and each thread would be a new story. Does that make sense?
Hahaha, anyway, I guess it seems like maybe we're all taking this too seriously? It's just an idea for fun and definitely not as complicated as we might be making it! Sure there are people out there who might not like repetition from posting styles (and we could always alter any posts that are extremely repetitive), but there are also people who just don't like fanfiction in general and still harp on Tumbling fics. *coughyouknowwhatimeancough*
But I do think it's possible! Well, let's see what everyone thinks! I don't know why I'm so eager to do it....I think it's because I just think we've got some good stories here that maybe other Tumbling fans don't know about and might want to read. And at least two people from the AAA comm I run on DW have said they come on here just to read the posts. Sugoi, right???
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Post by Mizusawa Taku on Oct 7, 2010 14:43:43 GMT -5
It might not flow well, but I get the impression that if we explain how and why it is set up the way it is, people will understand. And if we post it as changing POV, it might be necessary to have some reptition. But if each reply is a "new chapter" and each thread is a "new story", then I feel like at least some people would enjoy it. If it's called the RPG Fic Club or something like that (or even if we explain who we are), shouldn't people know that it's based on an RPG? Probably not everyone's cup of tea, but I feel like we have some authentic stories (and well written too) that we could share with fans! ^0^/ Aka, we wouldn't change the writing of the posts, just post them as is (unless we check for grammar errors or something first). They would have to be completed threads, first of all, and I'm sure the stories wouldn't have to be in a specific order or anything. It's just to show what we've been writing. I can see this working as long as we don't take it too seriously and just see it as posting our work so far for others to enjoy. A few people on the AAA DW comm commented there when we put an ad up saying that they just visit the site because they enjoy reading everything we all wrote together. I remember the Forest post was especially hot with people who just come to read, as well as the Hino/Mizu one where Ryosuke walks in. XD Basically, as long as we're not seeing this as something extremely serious and perfect, I think it could be done just for fun. Every "story" on the FFN could include a summary that states "This is an original work taken from the Tumbling RPG. The format of the story is still in RPG form, so each character is written by the member playing them. If you do not like reading RPG style, this may not be for you." And then we could include the list of names roleplaying each character or something. And as Marysa said, each "chapter" of the "story" would be each post, and could be from each character's POV. So, let me pretend we have a fake thread where, say, Kaoru, Mizusawa, and Ryosuke are involved. We would post their posts like this on FFN: Chapter 1: KaoruKaoru liked to dance the cha-cha, but not with someone as stupid as Ryosuke. "I hate you," she told him angrily and stormed away. Chapter 2: Ryosuke"Why?" Ryosuke couldn't help the word escaping his mouth. Why did she hate him so much? "You know what, Mizu," he said, turning to his team mate. "Let's make passionate love right here and now before a sillier version pops up in the GOAT fic." Chapter 3: MizusawaMizusawa had been watching the display between Kaoru and Ryosuke the entire time. And now he just couldn't help thinking how stupid it all was. "Watching you guys just made me decide that I'm going to tell everyone I'm gay. You know, because I'm a rebel and all," he added, magically transforming into an Elvis Presley look-alike. I do think that there should just be one master account though and someone can update the FFN. Maybe not me since I'm already falling behind here. >< But we could at least collaborate and agree on a thread before posting it there. I think only a few are completed right now anyway, right? HinoMizuRyo comes to mind and the one at Washizu, but are any others done? But that being said, I think it could work!  P.S. I think a lot of people would enjoy the girl thread and the boy-switching thread. XD |
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Post by Kaneko Atsushi on Oct 7, 2010 15:19:41 GMT -5
bwuhahaha God I'm sooo happy I'm living in a different floor from the rest of my family because I just laughed really hard XD
I have a suggestion:
1) create a comm (it's way better than a journal, let me explain) on DW or on LJ whatever
2) create a 'master post' here
3) whenever someone is about to post a "new chapt", first of all he/she (are there boys here at all?) write a new thread on the master post here which say for example "How we ended like this - Kaneko chapt"
4) he/she then posts the real chapt on the comm
I thought about this because
a) we all can use our own accounts
b) there's no 'risk' of 2 or more chapts being posted at the same time or one after the other, while they are taking completely different directions (ex. I post about Kaneko walking on Misu & Hino doing something and fainting at the scene and 'Misu' posts an entry about Kaneko walking in and doing something completely different - get what I mean?)
c) I have several friends who had been playing RP games for years and I heard sometimes it can be messy if there's no 'official thread' or master post to follow.
That's all I had to say...
DISCUSS! XD
*gets shot*
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Post by Mizusawa Taku on Oct 7, 2010 15:29:04 GMT -5
bwuhahaha God I'm sooo happy I'm living in a different floor from the rest of my family because I just laughed really hard XD XDDD I'm so glad you enjoyed that. It really just was whatever came to mind first, hahaha. I'm against this only because it's like relocating the RPG to another hosting site. What would be the point of posting here then if we just wrote there? This is where we roleplay, right? So it seems redundant to repost our posts over there (unless we want to save them or something). The difference with FFN is that it is legitimately a fan fiction site, so...Yeah, it's 5:30AM in the morning right now but I hope that makes sense. >< About A...I think it's better to have one master account, for the sole reason that it will get messy if we all have accounts. The master account, whoever controls it, shouldn't be allowed to post any thread unless it is agreed on by all the people involved in it. But at least if there is one unspecifically named account (something generic so that it shows everyone is under that account), then we won't have a flock of people trying to post all at once. Which fits with your B point, I think! About C...Yeah, I've been roleplaying since I was 10, but that's why I said if we put it on FFN, we could have a master post under our account profile and maybe even in the summary of each "story" we post. I'm against posting on DW or LJ because then that would make this site pointless.  |
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Post by Kaneko Atsushi on Oct 7, 2010 15:45:03 GMT -5
that's what I don't get about this whole idea.
I mean... this site was created for RPG so why would you want to create a comm/journal elsewhere?
Besides, ppl can read stories without having to register for an account.
This is why I was (and still am) confused.
I mean... we all came here to RP so things are posted here.
Period.
If other ppl wants to read they can:
1) register/join
2) bookmark the site
3) just read them 'lurking' around
Or the admn or whoever else can make a daily (or every 2 or 3 days) post at the Tumbling comm @ LJ and on AAA and/or Japanboys @ DW to let other ppl know another chapt had been posted
Considering that there are ppl here living in different parts of the world, how can everybody involved agree?
This is why, if a comm is created elsewhere, is better to have a master thread here to let other ppl know "hey, I'll post the next part"
not really, because I can access to the main account at the same time you do and we might end up posting something together (we can fix that for sure later on), but it may happen
Again: we have this website... let's use it!
RPGs end up creating fanfics most of the time.
Whatever decision the majority of users will take, I'll respect it and follow it.
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Post by Mizusawa Taku on Oct 7, 2010 15:54:02 GMT -5
Ack, I'm really frustrated right now. >< It's not half as tough as people are making it sound...  that's what I don't get about this whole idea. I mean... this site was created for RPG so why would you want to create a comm/journal elsewhere? We don't want to create a comm or journal elsewhere is the point. Just an account on FFN to let people know what we have posted. Yes, but a lot of people also don't know how to find their way around a Proboards site. If people are just coming here to read, it's tough to find posts they are looking for because the site isn't set up for something like that. How is this difficult? We post together all the time and are all in random places around the world. We would only post threads that are completed, aka threads that no one is posting in any longer because they were finished. As long as everyone involved in those finished threads agree it's okay to have the one user post the completed thread on FFN, then it's a go. We wouldn't be starting new threads on there because that's way too tough. Leave that for here, and if we want to share those threads once they are completed, then that's okay. EXACTLY why I said only one person should be in charge of the main account. Not myself, since I'm too busy to do it, but someone should be. And it should be one person only. Sigh...I really don't understand what is so difficult about this, I just don't. If people don't want to be involved, then perhaps just the people who are comfortable with having what they wrote can do it. |
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Post by Tsukimori Ryosuke on Oct 7, 2010 16:04:22 GMT -5
>____< Okay, I'm really frustrated.........It really shouldn't be this difficult. -______-; And I really only came up with this idea as a sort of happy hope, not with the intention of us going in circles..... Facts: 1. It would be a Fanfiction.net/Fiction Press account. Not Dreamwidth, not LJ, not blogspot. A FANFICTION account, nothing remotely related to a blog. One person could be in charge of it, since everyone seems to have some qualms about a group of people running one account (and I do understand that), and if no one wants to do that, I'm certainly game for it, especially since this was my idea. 2. The one person in charge of the account would only post finished threads, in which all members involved in that particular thread agree to share their work! If even one person in the thread does not want their work posted on FFN or Fiction Press, then the thread will not be posted at all. 3. Only FINISHED/CLOSED threads would be posted, nothing in progress. Here are two examples of threads I was a part of, which are now finished. (And they feature the same original character, so they're actually consistent too) Team of My EarWe Meet in the Best Places, Don't We?If members are still posting in a thread here, it cannot be posted on FFN, not until it's completed here first. 4. It's JUST FOR FUN! Seriously, it's meant to be for fun, not for us to go overthinking and trying to overexplain. It's really not that complex, I promise! 5. The reason why we hoped to do it //was// to share our writing and advertise it on the Tumbling Community! We could state that we'd created an account on FFN based on what we'd been writing in the roleplay. We can say that we did this to make it more organized for people to read completed threads rather than making them have to go looking for posts on here. Again, this way, the threads are not all over the place for people to try and find and read. If they aren't members here, they might find it confusing to find and read some of the threads we have going here. First time proboards users might think it's difficult. I know I once did. We could also use this as a chance to promote and encourage more members to join this roleplay and share their writing here if they enjoy what the read on FFN! Guyyysss, PLEASE don't make it so difficult, ne? This is making my head spin......A lot of people don't know about the roleplay, so I was thinking we could share our talented writing from here with other Tumbling fans. You just joined, Kaneko-chan, so you probably haven't seen some of the really good posts that have been written! And some have already been closed or blocked by other threads, so it makes sense if not! But that's exactly why I'd like to do this! Because it's hard to get around this site sometimes, and it would be really nice to share some of the epic stories written here. I KNOW people would like it! I already know a few who do, but they had a hard time finding the completed threads on here to begin with. |
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Post by Kaneko Atsushi on Oct 7, 2010 16:08:41 GMT -5
THAT is what was making me worried!
BUT if only closed threads get posted, then I'm completely okay with it
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Post by Mizusawa Taku on Oct 7, 2010 16:18:27 GMT -5
THAT is what was making me worried! BUT if only closed threads get posted, then I'm completely okay with it I thought that was self-explanatory... >< Or at least that it had mentioned it a few times already? |
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Post by Azuma Wataru on Oct 8, 2010 4:17:16 GMT -5
Wow, after all that detailed explanation & all, I think I get it! & It sounds like alot of fun.
I'm pretty much fine with having one account on a fanfic site.
So count me in! I'll try to write more if this plan goes forward in motion & try my best. =D
I'm pretty sure the different ideas & style will combine to make it more unique..well atleast in my opinion.
*sends 'de-frustrating' mushroom to Mizu & Ryo*
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